Los Altos Hills, CA
When did you start
getting ‘serious’ about photography? What triggered or sparked your interest?
About 10 years ago I got serious about photography as a hobby. I have
always liked having a pursuit in my life that consumes me. I get a bit
obsessive about my interests. Windsurfing had served that for me, but I was
getting less excited about it after twenty years. I've always enjoyed viewing
photography. After buying a digital point and shoot and finding I had some
knack, I pursued learning about the technical aspects of photography while exploring
different directions. Wandering urban environments to find scenes that
interested me felt quite natural.
To you, is it more
about documenting life or rather about a form of artistic expression?
It's certainly not about documenting life. Well, initially when I was
taking photos during travel, some documentation was occurring. But early on I
was attracted to the work of storytellers. The fashion photographers Guy
Bourdin and Tim Walker created
fantastical and dreamy scenes; images that I loved as created by the American
art photographers Peter Joel Witkin and Gregory Crewdson. Having neither the
talent or resources for creating ideas for a shoot as they have and wanting to
find unposed and unplanned images, I mostly enjoy finding images in the real
world that hint to a greater story. I also value the artistry of photographers
like Alex Webb and Constantine Manos whose work is more about the art of their
photographs than the documentation.
You have worked as a
psychiatrist for four decades. Are there moments you notice that you’re
applying techniques or patterns of thought you used to work with then while
engaging in photography?
Yes and no. I don't have any conscious awareness that I am applying my
work as a psychiatrist to my photography, but I imagine my psychiatric work
helps me pay attention to the nuances, and be quickly responsive to an emerging
scene. I am more oriented to an intuitive direction both in my office and on
the street photographing. I think about the work I am doing with my patients
before and after the sessions, but tend to be in a fairly intuitively
responsive state during the meetings. With photographing, too, my thinking is
mainly before or after. If you think too much on the street, you may miss your
opportunity. Anyway, I'm either engaged
with family or listening to music while shooting.
The major part of your
work could be described as street photography, and you write that you seek for
unplanned situations to capture everywhere. Do you ever feel like a determined
‘hunter' for specific motives, too?
No, not a hunter for anything specific. Part of the excitement is having
no idea what I might find. The "hunt" is more of a receptivity to the
occasions that occur. Someone wrote "photographs find me." I may go somewhere with the hope of finding
images, but I have little control about being successful. I spent two weeks in
Japan seeing and photographing interesting scenes, but the image that found me
was in the airport lounge prior to returning home. So as we often recommend in
street photography, I carry a camera all the time.
How much of your work
is shot on film or digital cameras? Which do you prefer for which occasions?
It's always digital. I learned photography on a digital camera and especially
learned about composition by being able to see my results on the LCD
screen. Now it's more about my lack of
patience. I prefer looking at my images right away on my computer rather than
days later. My editing may result in returning months later to discover a photo
but I need to see results immediately while working.
Looking back at your
professional life, what did you love about being a psychiatrist? Were there any
downsides whilst at it or any negative/positive effect you noticed in
retrospect?
I hope any patients reading this can tolerate my saying that I don't
love being a psychiatrist. I do like it, find it interesting; I enjoy working
with patients and helping them. But my passions have been my pastimes and my
family, while my profession is different. That being said, I hope to never
retire. I'm now working very part time and look forward to going to my office.
The downsides earlier in my practice was carrying around some emotional burden
from what my patients were going through. I see far fewer patients, and the
burden is much less.
If you were invited to
make a commencement speech, what would you include in your speech in any case?
My favourite photographs. I'm not that verbal. And I would repeat what
was said at my daughter's commencement: It's important in life to stay interested rather than be interesting. Perhaps to extend this
further, I'd suggest remaining focused on your character and relationships more
than on your achievements.
Do you engage in other
forms of art, too?
Only observing. I'm a museum junky and love modern art.
Would you say that ‘too
much input’ could block our minds, and make it difficult to be and stay
inspired?
I think that's very individual. I function more from my intuition and
feelings. I can look through photography books and magazines, see work in
museums etc., but my mind is fairly free of thinking when I am photographing.
Those who operate more intellectually in their heads may find the influences
becoming too much. Of course it's the type of influence, too, that can have a different
impact. I find other people's creativity and excitement very stimulating. The
input, though, of being down on yourself and your work can interfere. I don't
know anyone who doesn't develop self-doubts about their work. When I'm in that mode, I am usually blocked.
How will you spend your
summer?
This summer has already been and will continue to be wonderfully busy
with travels. My wife and I just came
back from a week in Nantucket attending a film festival and then spent a week
traveling around Iceland with our son and daughter in law. In a few days we
leave for Los Angeles where my children and grandchildren live. We will spend
three weeks helping take care of the grandchildren while my daughter is busy
producing a feature film being shot in Venice, California. Of course, I hope
that some images will find me there.